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DeltaV Upgrade from V 10 to V 11.3.1?

Dear All Expert,

We have new project need to convert version from DeltaV V10 to our version v11.3.1 for all system looking and checking from the existing project application. 

Please help to advice, How we can do? and possible without error for migrate?  or we can find out V.10 for installation files? from Where, please advice.

Best Regards,

Bopit

Bopit Boonkrajang
  • Steve Linehan
    Bopit

    Upgrading DeltaV is a straight forward task once you follow the exact procedures laid out by Emerson. I have heard of many projects that ran into trouble when the end user tried to migrate the system by themselves. I also know of may users that upgraded by themselves when they had a DeltaV expert with many years of experience to guide the work.

    There are hardware considerations, online/offline migration, patching etc.

    My advice would be to get your local Emerson Office involved at least in an advisory capacity or engage a system expert to plan the migration. I say this because you are asking where to get the install files. Sounds like you are heading into a world of pain.

    The end user can do the bulk of the work if you have the capacity but the migration plan should definitely be prepared by or reviewed and approved by an expert. This would minimize disruption to the plant during the upgrade.
  • Ray Emerson

    In reply to Steve Linehan:

    Truth in advertising, I work in an Emerson office. I've also contributed to 100+ upgrades, going back as far as DeltaV 4.

    I agree with Steve's statements. I've seen many users get into business/regulatory trouble because they treated a DeltaV upgrade the same way they'd treat a Microsoft Office upgrade.

    Even the smallest system I have upgraded (1 workstation and 1 controller) had issues that required realtime troubleshooting and calls to tech support.

    Whatever cost you spend on engaging a product expert is well worth it, considering what it may cost you to recover if something goes wrong.
  • Bopit Boonkrajang

    In reply to Steve Linehan:

    Dear Steve,

    May thanks for your answer and advice, that correct! regarding to your objective in your description if we want to migration system project action.we must to contact local Emerson team for support, But for our object question for open the existing database from version 10 by version 11 only for learning, because I'm not sure that if we want to open database file from version 10 from 11 without migration it possible? please advice if can. because, we would like to know about existing application config and logic program for engineering work only. my expert to recommend by cloning is easy than migration the version such as may be form converting a physical machine into a virsual machine by using VM tool.

    Best Regards,
    Bopit
  • Bopit Boonkrajang

    In reply to Ray Emerson:

    Dear Ray,

    Yes, I agree with him and you advice, but our objective only for open database from existing version than our had, for learning the logic and physical configuration only. Because we cannot go to site alway for looking Pro. Plus.

    Best Regards,
    Bopit
  • Steve Linehan

    In reply to Bopit Boonkrajang:

    Bopit

    From what I understand from your reply is. You are remote from the site and need to open the site database (v10) on your system (v11) to look at and review the code.
    If that is so then you can simply run the fhx file though the migration utility and you should be able to load it on your system. The migration tools can be found on your DeltaV media pack.
    As long as you are not trying to upgrade the site system then the issues Ray an I mentioned are not a factor. Note that you can go from v10 to v11 but not the other way around.

    If you are just reviewing fine but if you intend sending code back to the site you will need a system that matches the site version.
  • Ray Emerson

    In reply to Steve Linehan:

    You can also migrate the FHX via the Database Administration console in your v11 system. It's the same tool.
  • Steve Linehan

    In reply to Ray Emerson:

    Ray nice one, forgot all about that. Told you I was getting old ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  • Ray Emerson

    In reply to Steve Linehan:

    I'll take comfort in the fact that you'll always be older than I am! :-)

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