PIC folder auto update when Proplus Download is Done

Dear all,

I am having a serious issue. I have made some changes to the PIC folder but whenever i download the professional plus station ,

it reverts me back to the original folder. Kindly help me with this.

Thanks a lot

Regards

M_ASIM_B

6 Replies

  • Make sure your SCU file is pointing to the local drive from where you are editing the graphics.
     
    Typically, I’ve seen installations where a single SCU was copied with the graphics-ifix folder resulting in all workstations running from a single workstation’s pic folder.
    From: M_ASIM_B [mailto:bounce-M_ASIM_B@community.emerson.com]
    Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:59 PM
    To: DeltaV@community.emerson.com
    Subject: [EE365 DeltaV Track] PIC folder auto update when Proplus Download is Done
     

    Dear all,

    I am having a serious issue. I have made some changes to the PIC folder but whenever i download the professional plus station ,

    it reverts me back to the original folder. Kindly help me with this.

    Thanks a lot

    Regards

    M_ASIM_B

  • In reply to AdrianOffield:

    It could also be Yellow Pages (otherwise known as the Auto Update service) .  It copies files to all the workstations from the master node.  Usually the master is the ProPlus but, if the master is unavailable (like during a download maybe?) then the service elects a new master based on the lowest IP address on the network.  That can cause files from a workstation to get copied back to the ProPlus.  To test this, you can uncheck the "Graphics" option on the Auto Update service in the DeltaV group of the Start menu.  I think it must be disabled on all the workstations.  If the problem goes away, then it was Yellow Pages.

  • In reply to carllemp:

    Carl,  Are you confusing Auto Update service with Directory Services?  My understanding was that Directory Services, which provides controllers with information about remote modules will be the Pro Plus by default, but if the pro plus is not available, the next lowest IP addressed workstation will provide the data.  Auto Update is used to propagate the workstation files, such as global setup data, pictures, etc to all workstations.  Master files are on the Pro Plus, and if it is not available, then any editing on a workstation remains local to that station until the changes can be uploaded to the pro plus and from there sent out all nodes via auto update.

    Or am I confused?!.

    Andre Dicaire

  • In reply to Andre Dicaire:

    Back to the original issue, what "changes to the PIC folder" are we talking about.  Did you manipulate files and directories in that folder using Windows Explorer?  Are you on the Pro Plus or another station?

    Auto Update stores files in the Yellow Pages directory and these can work there way back into the PIC folder after you make changes to a picture on a workstation.  I've seen this when the workstation and pro plus don't have the same time, and what I think happens is the file in the yellow pages folder has a more recent time stamp than the modified file, and auto update decides the new file must be the right one.  This can be real problem trying to remove a "future" file from the system as it tends to repopulate itself.  

    Since we don't know exactly what was modified, or how, or what node, its unlikely we can help, and I might must be sending you on a wild goose chase. ( Hmm.  Since this is world wide forum, I wonder what some might think a wild goose chase is anyway.  )

    Andre Dicaire

  • In reply to Andre Dicaire:

    Thanks Carl & Andre,

    My issue has been resolved, thanks to Andre's suggestion. The Yellow Pages were the actual culprit. They were updating the files again and again. So i replaced them with oldest Pro plus Yellow Pages backup.Made the required changes to the PIC folder (addition of some new P&IDs and some copies of faceplates).Checked that the Auto update is disabled for the node.Downloaded it again and it didn't update it to the older ones.This didn't turn into a wild goose chase at all ( i do know what this phrase means....:) ).

    Thanks a lot guys.

    Regards

    M_ASIM_B

  • When you downloaded the workstation (the one you are doing edits on), it should ask you to upload the graphics to the PRO+, is it not doing this?
     
    From: M_ASIM_B [mailto:bounce-M_ASIM_B@community.emerson.com]
    Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:53 PM
    To: DeltaV@community.emerson.com
    Subject: RE: [EE365 DeltaV Track] PIC folder auto update when Proplus Download is Done
     

    Thanks Carl & Andre,

    My issue has been resolved, thanks to Andre's suggestion. The Yellow Pages were the actual culprit. They were updating the files again and again. So i replaced them with oldest Pro plus Yellow Pages backup.Made the required changes to the PIC folder (addition of some new P&IDs and some copies of faceplates).Checked that the Auto update is disabled for the node.Downloaded it again and it didn't update it to the older ones.This didn't turn into a wild goose chase at all ( i do know what this phrase means....:) ).

    Thanks a lot guys.

    Regards

    M_ASIM_B