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DV12 Batch Historian Server - Unable to install

Hi

We are migrating from DV9 to DV12 in a few monthes and I have to check if the third part programs we have created still compatible with DV12 features.

So, I would like to install a virtual machine to gest "DV12 Batch Historian Server" and my (long) tests didn't succeed :

- First, I build a virtual machine with W7-64 SP1 and I have installed "Station Application" (STAPP) software.
- At the end of installation, STAPP require a CFG file from the PPlus.
My problem is that the PPlus I have installed for my tests is a "Simulate" and when I give the CFG file to the "Workstation config" program, no workstation name appears in the list.
It seams that a STAPP isn't able to communicate whith Simulate.
--> Can someone confirm that ?
I have tryed a CFG file form a real DV9 PPlus, but file version are not compatible.

- Second point : Until the STAPP not completely configure, I'm not able to install the "Batch Historian Server" on it.
The setup error message I read is
"SQL2012 Standard Edition cannot be installed on Windows 7 Workstation"
Funny, because SQL2012 is already installed on the machine (with the STAPP installation)
--> So, new questions :
Do I make a mistake to try to install "Batch Historian Server" on a "Station Application" ?
Is it really W7 that is the problem ?
I have also try a "Windows Server 2008" instead, but the setup immediate message tell
"DeltaV cannot be installed on this operating System. Please refer to KBA AP-1000-0015 for the list of supported Operationg Systems"
Is there a link to this document ?

On the DV12 DVDs, I didn't find any information/documentation about required OS for each software ...
Thanx for help

---------------------------------- Few hours later
I have spent more hours to try to setup a ProPlus (not Simulate) and generate a CFG file.
The result is the same : No "Workstation Name" apprears after having browse for the CFG file.
Note that my DV-Network is empty - no controller configured.
Could it be the reason ?

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Jack_France

• 3 Nov 2014 2:20 PM
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• Robert Rijnders

  

  • 4 Nov 2014 3:17 PM

  Couldn't find a server requiremement for batch historian in the standard KBA's. Only recommendations to use W2008 for application stations. Mind that only Server 2008 SP2 32-bit OR Server R2 SP1 64-bit are supported.
  Do you have a simulate license for the application station?
  Can the app. station ping the Pro+ over the network?

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• Jack_France

  

  • 4 Nov 2014 9:19 PM

  In reply to Robert Rijnders:

  Thank you for these informations.
  I made two mistakes :
  
  - I have try to install the STAPP on Windows Server 2008-64 SP1, but the Entreprise version.
  The install program test the OS version and it was not the Standard version needed.
  The only problem is the fail message that speak about W7 instead.
  --> WS 2008 in Standard edition only --> Ok
  
  - Second mistake was I didn't create the STAPP device in the PPlus/Simulate world.
  So, normal that the CFG file don't show any valid node to use for this STAPP machine.
  
  Thanx for your help, and thanks to Rachelle who try to alert community, lol !

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• Jack_France

  

  • 4 Nov 2014 9:23 PM

  In reply to Robert Rijnders:

  @Robert : No, I have no STAPP licence.
  The goal of this test was to discover the database tables format to check if they are the same than in the DV9 version from which we migrate, because our third part program ask for data from these tables.

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• Robert Rijnders

  

  • 4 Nov 2014 10:55 PM

  In reply to Jack_France:

  Don't have access to Guardian at home, but the following. I think WS2008 enterprise is also allowed acc. to the KBA, but if there is an error-message then maybe it's not the correct version.
  After running workstation config, the new station needs to be downloaded. Without a license this isn't possible. However without downloading batch historian administrator will still be available to convert the database files. That's probably what you are after. AFAIK only the SQL version is updated from DV v9 to v12. (At least after upgrading from v7 to v10 there was no difference in database format, but always good to test beforehand.)

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• Jack_France

  

  • 5 Nov 2014 8:15 AM

  In reply to Robert Rijnders:

  Thank you Robert

  You are right : without a download - that I am not able to perform - the initial (empty) SQL Server tables are not created and I can't check the structure  :-(

  "batch historian administrator will still be available to convert the database files" 
  I don't find the way to.

  Because I cannot really check it, I have to wait that my Guardian account to be re-activated and try to find the theorical information in.

  Thanks again.

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• Robert Rijnders

  

  • 5 Nov 2014 9:53 AM

  In reply to Jack_France:

  Not sure if this will work, but couldn't you temporarily make this machine the pro+? Then you could at least download the station. When the batch historian paths are configured correctly and backups are in place, the batch historian admin. tool should be able to convert the files. The procedure is to attach an autoarchive file, convert it and detach again. 1 or 2 database files should be sufficient.

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• Jack_France

  

  • 5 Nov 2014 2:47 PM

  In reply to Robert Rijnders:

  I thought having found a serious info about tables content in the BOL, but it describes only 'View" tables and, in addition, some information listed are fake.
  i.e. : Table "batchview", it is written that the field "uniqueId" is source in the table.field "Batch.uniqueID"
  This field "uniqueID" doesn't exists in this table; it is "uniqueBatchId".
  (Read in DV9 BOL and seems to have been reproduced in the DV12 BOL).
  So I cannot base my checkings from it.
  
  Never mind; I have to postpone my checks when the migrated data will take place.

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