Surge Compressor Graph in DeltaV

Hi All,

Does anyone in the community have any experience in developing a compressor surge graph but in DeltaV Operate?

Regards

  • Hi

    We don't usually have a special screen. Just I have showed PDIC , PIC and HIC with a high selector on vent valve(or recycle valve).
    Also in case you have surge detection, it can be shown as message which can be shown when it is triggered.
  • We have built a graph to replicate one shown on a compressor UCP - we handled it using a static graph background (actually an image of an Excel chart), and then overlaying the 'live' point, with the position of the point changing depending on current conditions. It might take a bit of work to get the x and y co-ordinates lined up correctly, but apart from that it isn't all that difficult.

    Is that similar to what you are looking to do?
  • In reply to David Scott:

    Hello david,
    correct, something like this is what I need, what I don't know is how to start locating the points of the variables in that reference image and that they move according to the variables communicated from the PLC. Do I need any new activeX?
  • In reply to DCS_Project:

    I'm assuming that you already have values in the correct units for the X / Y - probably easiest to calculate them in logic if you don't already have them on the link from the PLC.

    Just to check - are you using Operate or Live? This was using Operate, so once the image was in place it was simply a case of using the Vertical / Horizontal animation experts to get the necessary X/Y values - if you move the marker to the correct location then you can pull the variable using the expert (at least you could in 12.3 - not sure if it is the same in 14.3 and not able to check at the moment).

    If you are using Live then I'm afraid I haven't used that enough to give an answer.
  • In reply to David Scott:

    This is what we have, again, using Operate, not Live.

  • In reply to MPHymel:

    Yes, something like that is what I need, is it possible you can send me that configuration in Operate?
  • In reply to MPHymel:

    We use Triconex, and our application was created by the Triconex Turbo Machinery group in Webster, TX.

    The various OP_Pnt X & Y and (our operating point)FLOW and DeltaP references below are read from the Triconex system.

  • In reply to MPHymel:

    The operating point position X and Y expressions:
    X: G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Rect7.Width / 100 * DVSYS.HC_RGC_SURGE/OP_PNT_X.F_CV + G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Rect7.HorizontalPosition - G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Group379.Width / 2
    Y: ( G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Rect7.VerticalPosition ) + ( G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Rect7.Height * ( ( 1.38 - DVSYS.HC_RGC_SURGE/OP_PNT_Y.F_CV ) / 0.35 ) ) - ( G_HC_RGC_SURGE_MAP.Group378.Group379.Height * 1.5 )
  • In reply to MPHymel:

    Surge Line segments are as many as necessary to represent the surge curve set up in your surge control system.
  • In reply to MPHymel:

    sorry, I had to break up the response over the last few posts, the message board would not take the text below, so I stuck an image of it.

  • In reply to MPHymel:

    please i need screen anf module deltav please.