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Batch prompts as a message with OAR

Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to show batch prompts as well as a button that will go to the OAR in a different picture? I find it inconvenient to have to switch back to the batch prompt list picture every time I want to answer a prompt.

Thanks

rhamlin
  • Matt Stoner

    Possible...Yes

    Easy...No

    This needs to be an engineered solution. In our project libraries we have logic that generates an "ALERT" (Alarm that doesn't show on the alarm banner but in a different location on the banner, example pic shown below) on a module with the primary display configured. Then on the primary displays we have an activeX prompt control that can be displayed when a prompt is active. Clicking the configured ActiveX alarm summary filtered for the Prompt "ALERT" on the alarm banner would then open the primary control display where the prompt can be answered without going to the batch prompts screen.

  • gamella

    If auxiliar pictures area is available, it is possible to create a pic containing ActiveX Batch Prompts control that fits on auxiliar pics area. In this way, list of batch prompts is always present regardles opened main picture.

  • rhamlin

    In reply to gamella:

    How do you put in an auxiliary picture?
  • gamella

    In reply to rhamlin:

    Creating a picture with the ActiveX inside.
    A copy of BatchPrompts.grf may be used as starting point:
    1 save with different name (I suggest to do "save as" into pic/standard folder).
    2 remove unwanted items (buttons to other Batch graphics, title banner, close pic button, etc...). DO NOT REMOVE VariableGroup item
    3 resize batch prompts activeX
    4 configure batch prompts activex to show only required colums (and other properties, font, bck color, etc...)

    5 resize graphic to fit into auxiliar area. This could be a bit tricky, some trial and error may be required....



    Then create a layout file to include that new pic.

  • Matt Stoner

    In reply to gamella:

    Yes this is will work but you may have distortions (Text and Lines) on your main graphics depending on how they were originally setup and how the layout is configured.

    I was assuming you were taking advantage of the entire screen for the operator graphics and keeping this functionality.
  • gamella

    In reply to Matt Stoner:

    Using templates for main grapics with smaller resolution than monitor allows to do that without distortion. There are sevelar combinations:
    - Picture 1280x1024, monitor 1680x1050 resolution, horizontal space for auxiliar pics (right side) will be 400
    - Picture 1280x1024, monitor 1920x1080 resolution -> 640
    - Picture 1680x1050, monitor 1920x1080 resolution -> 240
    Vertical differces may be tunned on layout file (unnoticeably distortion or grey "gaps" between toolbas, main pic and alarm banner)
    Of course, for selecte pic/monitor resolution size of BatchPrompts auxiliary picture must be different (you may end up with several versions of that picture). Layout files should be different as well.

    When maximum resolution is a must for main graphics (no auiliary area available) there is still an option. Having 1920x1080 monitor resolution, use of a 1280x1024 toolbar will provide an auxiliary pic space on right top corner. On that area, batch prompts auxiliary pic may be placed (will provide space to view only a couple of prompts)
  • rhamlin

    In reply to gamella:

    How do I make a column maintain full extension? i.e. how to show the entire description when going to operate configure rather than having to double click on the column to show the entire description each time I go into operate configure.
  • Matt Stoner

    In reply to rhamlin:

    In Edit mode you can double click the ActiveX Prompt Control object, hit cancel (no changes) and then you will get mouse indication on column width that will allow you to move to what you want the default to be.
  • rhamlin

    In reply to Matt Stoner:

    Is there by any chance a way to only show prompts that are applicable to the picture its in? Right now it shows all prompts universally, it would be nice to only show the ones that are concerning that particular picture graphic.

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