I received an email with some questions about the post. I wanted to share a genericized version of the questions and Steve’s response in the hopes that it may help if you have similar questions. Here are the questions:
What is unclear to me is a few things in the comparison table: The second column in the table suggests there is a focus on alcohols in the 6th edition, but I have not been able to determine what specifically this refers to. Would you be able to point out, or copy me what specifically about alcohols warrants special attention? In it the third column states that volatile liquids one just doubles the outbreathing volumetric displacement. This does not state whether this also accounts for streams that are at the bubble point at a higher pressure, which will flash entering the lower pressure tank. Am I correct that I add the flashing load to the total if it would occur concurrently? And if those were mutually exclusive displacements, one would size based on the greater of the two conditions?
What is unclear to me is a few things in the comparison table:
The second column in the table suggests there is a focus on alcohols in the 6th edition, but I have not been able to determine what specifically this refers to. Would you be able to point out, or copy me what specifically about alcohols warrants special attention?
In it the third column states that volatile liquids one just doubles the outbreathing volumetric displacement. This does not state whether this also accounts for streams that are at the bubble point at a higher pressure, which will flash entering the lower pressure tank. Am I correct that I add the flashing load to the total if it would occur concurrently? And if those were mutually exclusive displacements, one would size based on the greater of the two conditions?
Steve responded:
The reference to alcohols in the table was meant to simply point out that the original standard was created primarily around petroleum tank contents. By extending the focus to alcohols, other markets applications are also addressed, including chemical. Regarding outbreathing due to Filling, here’s how the standard specifically addresses it: Nonvolatile Liquids – products with vapor pressure equal to or less than 5.0 kPa (0.73 psi) The outbreathing volumetric flow rate (Vop) is: Vop = 8.02 x Vpf where Vpf is the maximum volumetric filling rate of nonvolatile liquid, expressed in US gallons per minute Volatile Liquids – products with vapor pressure greater than 5.0 kPa (0.73 psi). The flow of volatile liquids into a tank will result in higher outbreathing flow (compared to the same inflow with a nonvolatile liquid) due to changes in liquid-vapor equilibrium. The outbreathing volumetric flow rate Vop is: Vop = 16.04 x Vpf where Vpf is the maximum volumetric filling rate of volatile liquid, expressed in US gallons per minute Flashing Liquids – can cause the venting requirement to be many times greater than the volumetric inflow of the liquid. Flashing will occur when the vapor pressure of the entering stream is greater than the operating pressure of the tank. For products that can flash due to high temperature or because of dissolved gases (e.g. oil spiked with methane), perform an equilibrium flash calculation and increase the outbreathing venting requirements accordingly. In addition to Filling, there is also the Thermal component. Thermal outbreathing (Vot) is: Vot = 1.51 x Y x Vtk0.9 x Ri where Y is a factor for latitude (0.32 if below 42 deg latitude; 0.25 if between 42 and 58 deg latitude; 0.2 if above 58 deg latitude) Vtk is the tank volume, expressed in cubic feet Ri is the reduction factor for insulation (Ri = 1 if no insulation)
The reference to alcohols in the table was meant to simply point out that the original standard was created primarily around petroleum tank contents. By extending the focus to alcohols, other markets applications are also addressed, including chemical.
Regarding outbreathing due to Filling, here’s how the standard specifically addresses it:
The outbreathing volumetric flow rate (Vop) is:
Vop = 8.02 x Vpf
where Vpf is the maximum volumetric filling rate of nonvolatile liquid, expressed in US gallons per minute
The outbreathing volumetric flow rate Vop is:
Vop = 16.04 x Vpf
where Vpf is the maximum volumetric filling rate of volatile liquid, expressed in US gallons per minute
In addition to Filling, there is also the Thermal component. Thermal outbreathing (Vot) is:
Vot = 1.51 x Y x Vtk0.9 x Ri
where Y is a factor for latitude (0.32 if below 42 deg latitude; 0.25 if between 42 and 58 deg latitude; 0.2 if above 58 deg latitude)
Vtk is the tank volume, expressed in cubic feet
Ri is the reduction factor for insulation (Ri = 1 if no insulation)
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