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Suitability of use of GWR type level transmitter in high viscus crude oil applications

Dear all,
 
I am looking for some feedback from those members who are using GWR type level transmitters for measuring interface level in crude oil separators where crude oil viscosity is very high (about 680Cst @ 65DegC and 923Cst @ 60DegC). Have you ever faced any issues when using GWR type transmitters? How often the maintenance (cleaning) of probe to be done? How do transmitters behaves to emulsion (not clear water/oil interface)? Application is not for shutdown function, but for oil/water interface level measurement.
 
Best Regards, 
Kesu. K N
Instrumentation Engineer,
 
 
BW Offshore Singapore Pte Ltd
10 Pasir Panjang Road
#17-01 Mapletree Business City
Singapore 117438
 
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  • When using coaxial and twin lead probes, the GWR is sensitive to contamination and will therefore require regular cleaning. The Rosemount 5300 Series guided wave radar has a very high sensitivity and a single lead probe can be used to measure both level and interface and with this probe, the cleaning can be kept to a minimum – if required at all. Further, the 5300 features a function called “Signal Quality Metrics”, which continuously keeps track of the signal quality and possible contamination – and that way it is possible to predict possible maintenance/cleaning in good time before it becomes an issue. The “Signal Quality Metrics” can be used in level applications (not for level + interface).

    Emulsion can be a challenge as it is a state which can vary from case to case and situation to situation: Generally, the GWR will measure the top of the emulsion layer, but when the emulsion is fully gradient, it will of course be impossible to detect. Our recommendation is to install the GWR at the part of the vessel where it is calmest, in order for the products to settle. One solution may be to install a stilling well. With a stilling well, the likeliness of contamination is much less than for twin lead- or coaxial- probes.

    Hope this helps!

  • Not GWR, but I just wanted to mention there are specific temperature and Water cut sensors available from Rosemount. This one is with multi spot temperature and Water level sensor but you can get it without the temp sensor part. Normally used for net volume calculations in our Raptor Inventory Tank gauging systems connected to a 2410 tank hub but can also be open FF to host. There are special version for crude. It might be worth a look from a cost perspective if you have more than one vessel to equip.  More about the sensor and the Raptor system following the link (If I made it properly..).  www2.emersonprocess.com/.../Rosemount_765.aspx 

    Best Regards

    Håkan Jubel,   Rosemount Tank Gauging

  • Kan man mäta interface med Raptor?
     
    /Christoffer
     
    Christoffer Widahl | +46313370219
     
    From: Hakan Jubel [mailto:bounce-Hakan_Jubel@community.emerson.com]
    Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:18 PM
    To: Level@community.emerson.com
    Subject: RE: [EE365 Level Track] Suitability of use of GWR type level transmitter in high viscus crude oil applications
     

    Not GWR, but I just wanted to mention there are specific temperature and Water cut sensors available from Rosemount. This one is with multi spot temperature and Water level sensor but you can get it without the temp sensor part. Normally used for net volume calculations in our Raptor Inventory Tank gauging systems connected to a 2410 tank hub but can also be open FF to host. There are special version for crude. It might be worth a look from a cost perspective if you have more than one vessel to equip.  More about the sensor and the Raptor system following the link (If I made it properly..).  www2.emersonprocess.com/.../Rosemount_765.aspx 

    Best Regards

    Håkan Jubel,   Rosemount Tank Gauging

  • GWR can be used for interface measurements in separators, however in very viscous applications, getting a clean interface can be a challenge.  Often there will be an emulsion  between the two fluids and often, the top of the emulsion layer can be measured.  The emulsion layer may cause the reflected signal to be smaller and so threshold settings may need to be adjusted to accommodate that change. 
    It is recommended that single lead probes be used for any application that is likely to have material that could stick to the probes.  This will reduce the maintenance on the probes significantly.
     
     
    Sarah Parker |  Application Manager, Level  |  Rosemount Measurement
    Emerson Process Management  | 8200 Market Blvd. |  Chanhassen  |  MN  |  55317 | USA
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    From: keshu74 [mailto:bounce-keshu74@community.emerson.com]
    Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:55 AM
    To: Level@community.emerson.com
    Subject: [EE365 Level Track] Suitability of use of GWR type level transmitter in high viscus crude oil applications
     
    Dear all,
     
    I am looking for some feedback from those members who are using GWR type level transmitters for measuring interface level in crude oil separators where crude oil viscosity is very high (about 680Cst @ 65DegC and 923Cst @ 60DegC). Have you ever faced any issues when using GWR type transmitters? How often the maintenance (cleaning) of probe to be done? How do transmitters behaves to emulsion (not clear water/oil interface)? Application is not for shutdown function, but for oil/water interface level measurement.
     
    Best Regards, 
    Kesu. K N
    Instrumentation Engineer,
     
     
    BW Offshore Singapore Pte Ltd
    10 Pasir Panjang Road
    #17-01 Mapletree Business City
    Singapore 117438
     
    Direct Line +65 66321719
    HP +65 91050674
    Skype: kesu.kn.bwo
     
     

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