as wondering if anyone is currently running Delta V in a production environment, I am currently looking at setting a new VM environment. I have a pretty extensive background with VMWare, but from what I understand Delta V Virtual Studio is based off Hyper-X.
If people would not mind posting their feedback with Virtualization I would appreciate it, little detail on your network configuration would be fantastic as well.
I am looking at setting up three R720 host servers and one R320 Virtualization Domain Controller. The storage device I will be using is a Dell MD3220i.
Again any feedback would be appreciated. (issues\good\bad etc.)
-Robert
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Was wondering if anyone is currently running Delta V in a production virtualized environment, I am currently looking at setting a new Virtual environment. I have a pretty extensive background with VMWare, but from what I understand Delta V Virtual Studio is based off Hyper-V.
Emerson has announced plans for supporting a virtual environment for production systems based on HYPER-V servers. This solution will support online switch over of VM's if a VM Host were to fail, using a SAN Device and implementing certain best practices. After all, this is a DeltaV system, not an IT computing framework.
The biggest benefit is that Hyper-V role can be enabled on the Server 2008 (R2) OS without additional licensing costs. The Production architecture will run the servers an HYPER-V 2008 (R2) servers, with the ability to run Windows OS workstations for DeltaV Operator Stations, and or Server OS for Application Stations or Remote Desktop servers. New Thin Client devices will support 1, 2 or 4 monitor arrangements, attached to a Worstation VM. You can implement the virtual workstation and servers on v10, v11 or v12 online systems.
If you role your own with VMWare and have issues, there could be limitations on what Emerson can do to support you. I've been playing with the Hyper-V and set up a couple offline systems, and find the 2008 (R2) Hyper V manager easy to use and helpful. I've also run a pre release of the Virtual Studio and it has some nice features for managing these in the context of a DeltaV control system.
Andre Dicaire
In reply to Andre Dicaire:
From what I understand Virtual Studio is just taking the IT side of the environment out and they will not be releasing it with High Available (HA) or DRS until some time after its official release, but I spoke with Bruce and if one is fimiliar enough with virtulization they are giving the blessing for one to make changes directly to hyper-v manager for the features end users are currently looking for.
Also I believe it is only a matter of time before the give the blessing for VMWare instead of Hyper-V, people are already asking for it. In their white paper they sates DeltaV releasees are tested in an VMWare environment and are already supported for off-line, non-production applications and have strategic partnerships with both VMWare and Microsoft. (If you need access to the white paper let me know I can shoot it over.)
In reply to ibethebot:
Hi Ibethebot, i would like to get the whitepaper with the detailed implementation guidelines for using DeltaV in VMware.
I appreciate it
Thanks in advance
In reply to AdrianOffield:
great place to see documents:
www.slideshare.net/.../deltav-development-systems-in-a-virtualized-environment
some "really" old slideshow/white paper
www.slideshare.net/.../deltav-and-virtualization
Niklas Flykt
Klinkmann Oy
Key Account Manager safety products
nikfly@gmail.com
In reply to Niklas Flykt:
And the most current whitepapers, updated this week:
www2.emersonprocess.com/.../WP_DeltaV_Virtualization.pdf
www2.emersonprocess.com/.../PDS_DeltaV_Virtualization_Hardware.pdf
www2.emersonprocess.com/.../PDS_DeltaV_Virtual_Studio.pdf
Adrian,
As ibethebot stated, DVVS "is just taking the IT side of the environment out." Much the same as you could construct a server from all of the component parts if you had the time and expertise, you could likewise manually construct a Hyper-V or VMWare virtual environment. DeltaV Virtual Studio builds much of the necessary IT expertise into the software, so that you can focus on your process.
Failover clustering is, as you said, a feature of the Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 hypervisor software. Live migration and other features of Failover Cluster Manager are not specific to the revision of DeltaV nor the operating system running inside of the virtual machine.
Converting an existing physical production environment machine to a virtual machine (a "P2V" conversion) can be done using System Center Virtual Machine Manager (SCVMM) or more manually by creating a virtual hard disk (VHD) using other available tools. It is generally preferable to avoid P2V conversions if possible and construct your virtual machines in their "native" virtual environment. DeltaV Virtual Studio takes this one step further and utilizes standard template virtual machines for varying DeltaV revisions and base operating systems to deploy new VM's.