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Siemens Profibus-PA segment in DeltaV

Has anyone had experience connecting a Siemens Profibus-PA segment to DeltaV? I am unsure which GSD file to use.

I have an existing Siemens PLC which is being replaced by DeltaV as part of a larger plant upgrade. The PLC has 4 PA segments. Each segment has a DP/PA link (IM153-2), a DP/PA segment coupler (IM157) and about 12 devices. This also means it is a non-transparent interface so the devices have PA addresses, not DP addresses.

I have used the Siemens GSD-Tool to create a single gsd file from the gsd files of the devices on the segments but don't understand which gsd file option to use. I will not be able to connect a DeltaV controller to the segment to test it so wantd to ask the community:

1. 1. If I have Siemens parts IM153-2 (..153-2BA02-0XB0) and IM157 (..157-0AC83-0XA0) which gsd should I use? siem8052 or sip58052?
   2. If using sip58052 does DeltaV care about not have 'end of device' slots

Thanks. 

• Siemens
• Profibus
• DeltaV

RobPerry

• 1 Jun 2012 4:03 PM
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• bhushan619

  

  • 19 Feb 2015 3:47 PM

  Pls answer.....

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• RobPerry

  

  • 19 Feb 2015 4:23 PM

  Bhushan,
  In short: sip58052 and no.
  Here is what we did on our system before replacing the all IM153 with P&F transparent couplers. One problem with the Siemens is that if a configured device is offline when you commission it does not start the comms. You then have to re-do the gsd file generation with that device removed to get it going and then again when your off-line device starts working. The transparent coupler let's you see the individual instruments in DeltaV plus modify and download them individually.
  
  1. Test an instrument and its gsd file by connecting straight to the P&F coupler.
  2. Drop confirmed gsd files into the gsd-tool directory.
  3. Run the java file "gsdtool".
  4. Select "create new GSD-file"
  5. Select "GSD-Revision 4" and "IM 153-2:6ES7..."
  6. Click on "generate GSD-file.
  7. Go to the directory gsd-tool/output and open the file sip58052.gsd in Notepad.
  8. Make sure the lines:
  PrmText = 3
  Text(0) = "6ES7 153-2BA01(2)-0XB0"
  Text(1) = "6ES7 153-2BA81(2)-0XB0"
  EndPrmText
  have been changed to:
  PrmText = 3
  Text(0) = "6ES7 153-2BA02-0XB0"
  Text(1) = "6ES7 153-2BA82-0XB0"
  EndPrmText
  9. Optionally go to the line:
  Model_Name = "DP/PA-Link (IM153-2) V0/V1 mode"
  and modify it to indicate this is a new gsd, for example:
  Model_Name = "DP/PA-Link (IM153-2) V0/V1 mode Test 4
  10. Save the gsd file and copy it into the DeltaV system.
  11. In the DeltaV Explorer add this gsd to the Profibus Device Definitions.
  
  
  Here is a piece of the gsd showing the end of one module and the beginning of another so you see there is no end of device slot.
  Module ="== SP+RIN+RB+ROUT+POS_D+C_0639" \
  0xCB,0x89,0x8E,0x08,0x05,0x08,0x05,0x08,0x05,0x08,0x05,0x05,0x05,0x0A
  Info_Text = "SP+RIN+RB+ROUT+POS_D+CB"
  
  71
  EndModule
  ;=======================================================================================
  ;EH3X151C.GSD
  ;following module included by 'GSD-TOOL for IM 157 / IM 153-2 - V 2.1'!
  ;30.10.13 01:27:39
  ;for visualisation purposes only!
  Module = "Endress+Hauser" 0x01, 0xf9
  72
  EndModule
  Module = "Cerabar M" 0x01, 0xf9
  73
  EndModule
  Module = "Begin of Device_151C" 0x01, 0xfa
  74
  Ext_Module_Prm_Data_Len = 3
  Ext_User_Prm_Data_Const(0) = 0x15
  Ext_User_Prm_Data_Const(1) = 0x1C
  Ext_User_Prm_Data_Ref(2) = 11
  EndModule
  Module = "== Main Process Value_151C" 0x42,0x84,0x08,0x05
  Info_Text = "Main Process Value"
  
  75
  EndModule
  
  Rob

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