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Reminder to all Ovation Users - Ovation Users' Group website

Greg Schirm — Wed, 12 Feb 2025 12:15:47 GMT

The Ovation Users' Group website (https://www.ovationusers.com/) is the recommended site for obtaining useful support information including all of the Ovation user manuals, a forum dedicated exclusively to Ovation, and various other resources. Any individual employed by an organization which owns and/or operates an Emerson Ovation system is eligible to be a member of the site.

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process historian in ovation

Dean Schneider — Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:21:29 GMT

A few days ago the historian started to show errors in the error log and the historian diagnostic tool shows that the partner, drop201, has "no response" and the main drop has the historian connection down message displayed. The error log is showing that is is a RAIMA problem. Killed orphan user is the description. There are 4 error messages. They repeat every 30 minutes.

I am not sure why this has happened. 1 point was added to the historian. The point works. All the other points are trendable and do not seem to have any problems.

Any suggestions or ideas about what has happened and how to fix it?

Thanks,

Dean.

How to automatically assign Areas to Alarm and Events?del

Valentin Borsu — Thu, 14 Nov 2024 08:48:25 GMT

Hello Folks,

Is there a way to assign new Areas to Stations/Alarm and Events in a faster way than manually on each and every one of them? Is there a script/utility out there that could improve this manual process? I would really appreaciate your help.

Thank you,

Valentin

Ovation Network Protocols/Ports

Dominick Tardogno — Fri, 08 Nov 2024 16:05:16 GMT

Greetings!

I am a researcher working to develop a Wireshark dissector chain to perform security analysis in an Ovation network.

I need information regarding proprietary packet formats, fields therein, default ports, and generally any technical details regarding network traffic in this environment.

Thanks for any help!

Ovation DCS

Priyanka Srivastava — Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:53:28 GMT

Hello Everyone,
Is there any provision in Ovation DCS thru which any notification or altert can be configured if system is not in sync with NTP server timing.

ovation 3.6 connection for database fail.

ivan lishuk — Sun, 12 Mar 2023 05:33:37 GMT

hello

I have installed Ovation 3.6.0

Here is the issue we faced now.

my system is still operating normally but we can not access Developer Studio.

It alert that " Connecting to database failed" Code: 0x80004005

all services running good.

Please help us troubleshoot this issue!

Thank You very much!

Engineering Workstation communication issue with OPC and Operator Workstation DROPs We have following DROPs for our UNIT-2 on OVATION DCS 3.6

ivan lishuk — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 05:29:40 GMT

Engineering Workstation communication issue with OPC and Operator Workstation DROPs

We have following DROPs for our UNIT-2 on OVATION DCS 3.5.X

DROP 200 - EWS
DROP 160 - Historian
DROP 180 - OPC
DROP 210 - Operator workstation
DROP 211 - Operator workstation
DROP 212 - Operator workstation

Any graphics or logic changes that are implemented on the DROP 200 - EWS are unable to replicate on DROP 180, 210, 211 & 212. Recently we changed a graphics (spelling mistake) on our DROP 200 - EWS and when we tried to download it on the rest of the DROPS, only changes were made successful on DROP - 160 however on the rest of the DROPs it failed with an alert message popping up as "UNABLE TO COMPLETE THE REQUESTED OPERATION. CODE: 0x80004005. SOURCE: OVATION DEVELOPER STUDIO"

Kindly advise on the reason that why changes are not been able to download on the DROP 180, 210, 211 and 212?
Please advise on the way forward to rectify this problem?

Ovation Users’ Group Conference

Greg Schirm — Tue, 01 Mar 2022 18:29:52 GMT

Ovation users can join/visit the Users’ Group website to learn more.

Identifying Ovation Control System Version from Master Database

James Connor — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 13:53:20 GMT

Hi,

I have a need to identify the Ovation control system version from the tables collected from the system master database.

I see values in the table SCHEMA_REVISION that seem useful, such as MAJOR = 39 & MINOR = 1. Could this be mapped to the control system version somehow?

Or maybe the control system version is located somewhere else in the database?

As an alternative, perhaps there is a simple way to collect a file or setting from an Ovation drop that would have control system version information? I'm looking for something relatively simple and dependable that can be done on a periodic basis.

Any help would be much appreciated.

How acquire information on AutoCAD and SVG support and use in different system versions of Ovation

James Connor — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:37:44 GMT

Hello.

In my work experience of configuring, modeling and data mining Emerson Ovation systems (Windows and Solaris), I have come across a need to acquire specific information on exactly which Ovation system versions support and use the available CAD file formats for logic (which I believe is AutoCAD or SVG formats). If the exact version of AutoCAD or SVG format is known for each Ovation system version that would be even better.

I have searched for this information, but I now turn to the knowledgeable users of this forum.

Any assistance in finding information on which CAD formats go with which Ovation system versions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance, Patrick

help required for training in ovation DCS

SANDEEP VERMA — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 03:51:58 GMT

I am using ovation 3.5.6 in our plant, I want general module training manuals. My login in ovationuser.com is showing error kindly help me to access manuals of ovation.

Ovation controller showing fault whenever SOE point changes state.

shah_pchandra — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 09:45:42 GMT

Dear Sir,

We are using Ovation 3.6.0 for our plant control. We are finding that Ovation controller (drop) shows fault whenever any SOE point of that controller changes state. Due to this , we are finding it difficult to find serious faults in the system. Has anybody faced similar issue?

Adding audio in alarm management system

shah_pchandra — Thu, 20 Aug 2020 14:32:02 GMT

Dear sir,

We are using ovation version 6.0. We want to add audio in alarm system particularly LVS alarm system. Kindly guide . Also we don't have any type of manual for version 6.0.

Regards,

Shah Prakash

ALARM TIME STAMPING

Mahmood Alam — Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:12:50 GMT

HI,

I am using the Ovation 3.5.1 system.

I am facing issue in the alarm time stamping, some current process alarms are coming in the date of 1970.

Please see the attached screenshots and advice the remedial action.

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Modbus communication between Ovation DCS & Secure primer 300

KULDEEP PAREEK — Sun, 03 May 2020 12:49:18 GMT

We are taking KWH reading from secure premier to DCS but value not matching.how to correct the same in SLCAIN block

Ovation Plant Prosgnostic

Sahat K P Hutagalung — Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:55:55 GMT

Dear All, May I have question and information the technology of Ovation for Continoues Monitoring with Advanced Patterrn Recogniztion ( APR ) for monitoring abnormality, accident and emergency condition.Thanks

Error Code 0x80004005 Developer Studio

Wildan Nasrulloh — Wed, 11 Dec 2019 12:19:45 GMT

Hi Admin,

Currently I am working with Ovation 3.5.1 and face the problem on Developer Studio.

I can not open Developer Studio with error code 0x80004005.

Please help us to troubleshoot this issue

Thank you & Best regards,

How do you configure a new SNMP link using Developer Studio 3.5.0?

James Hall — Wed, 09 Oct 2019 22:26:42 GMT

I'm trying to configure an SNMP link to monitor an older Liebert UPS with no success.

I've had no issue establishing links to CISCO Switches to monitor port status as it would appear that Ovation DS 3.5.0 came pre-loaded with MIBs to accommodate.

Below is a snippet of the "snmp_config" file that I loaded using Ovation Developer Studio.

All of the configured points are showing bad quality. What am I missing?

I was able to connect via snmp to the UPS using a standard MIB browser application on the same host workstation.

!**********************************************************
! File: snmpMOC2UPS_config
! Description: snmp2Ovation configuration file
! Created By:
! Revisions:
!**********************************************************
UseConversion: TRUE
SetQualityOnTimeout: TRUE
!**********************************************************
! MOC2UPS
!**********************************************************
Device1.Name: 225.154.29.3
Device1.CommunityName: public
Device1.TimeOutPointName: MOC2UPS1COMM

! Analog- UPS Input Frequency
!Device1.variable1.Name:.iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.upsMIB.upsObjects.upsInput.upsInputTable.upsInputEntry.upsInputFrequency
Device1.variable1.Name:.1.3.6.1.2.1.33.1.3.3.1.2
Device1.variable1.Frequency: 5
Device1.variable1.PointName: MOC2SIUPS1
Device1.variable1.Test: PostActualValue

! Analog- UPS Input Voltage L1-L2
!Device1.variable2.Name:.iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.upsMIB.upsObjects.upsInput.upsInputTable.upsInputEntry.upsInputVoltage.1
Device1.variable2.Name:.1.3.6.1.2.1.33.1.3.3.1.3.1
Device1.variable2.Frequency: 5
Device1.variable2.PointName: MOC2EIUPS1A
Device1.variable2.Test: PostActualValue

! Analog- UPS Input Voltage L2-L3
!Device1.variable3.Name:.iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.upsMIB.upsObjects.upsInput.upsInputTable.upsInputEntry.upsInputVoltage.2
Device1.variable3.Name:.1.3.6.1.2.1.33.1.3.3.1.3.2
Device1.variable3.Frequency: 5
Device1.variable3.PointName: MOC2EIUPS1B
Device1.variable3.Test: PostActualValue

Wireless illuminates performance at TVA

Emerson Exchange News — Thu, 26 Sep 2019 23:48:19 GMT

Jim Montague

The Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) delivers electricity to about 10 million residents in parts of seven states, and part of this mission is carried out by 24 units at eight combined-cycle plants that need continuous condition monitoring to improve performance.

To update, improve and expand its condition monitoring, TVA sought to implement Etapro performance monitoring and predictive maintenance software about 18 months ago to create physical models that could continuously monitor heat rates and steam flows to increase overall operating efficiencies, improve reliability, recognize abnormalities and reduce downtime, according to Susan Hobbie, PE, senior I&C engineer, Merrick & Co., an engineering services firm that collaborated with TVA on the project. However, the cost and complexity of bringing in all these parameters quickly turned into an obstacle.

"We originally considered using wired 4-20 mA, serial, analog HART or Foundation fieldbus, but the quantity of instruments involved and networking costs quickly increased to $2-3 million. To minimize these expenses, we settled on using WirelessHART to monitor the 40-60 new instruments we added at each plant," said Hobbie, who presented "TVA uses wireless as backbone for performance monitoring" at the 2019 Emerson Global Users Exchange in Nashville, Tennessee. "These plants also had all different layouts, with two or three units each and control rooms in different locations, so that was another challenge in designing wireless solutions for them."

Hobbie reported that digital modernization with WirelessHART would let it serve as the combined-cycle plants' measurement backbone, and create the physical models that TVA wanted to measure applications, including wireless heat recovery steam generator (HRSG) monitoring, wireless circulation water monitoring, wireless leak valve detection, and wireless weather monitoring.

"We estimate that wireless saved more than $580,000 over the eight plants, which was 15-20% of the total project's material and construction costs, No wire or conduit was needed, minimal downtime was required, and there were no new or extended outages," added Hobbie. "These savings were achieved even though the different control room locations and other unique features required custom WirelessHART designs for each facility.

"Even though we used our existing DCS infrastructure wherever possible, we realized we couldn't design all of these wireless networks ourselves. It was a big help that Emerson came to every site and helped us select the right antennas, such determining when extended-range was needed."

Major wireless players

John Hillencamp, senior sales engineer, Emerson, added that the wireless networks at TVA's eight combined-cycle plants are using Emerson's 1410 gateways with antennas that can be 600 feet away from the transmitters and devices trying connect with them to deliver their data.

"There's a lot of steel in these plants, so it can sometimes be hard to get a signal from a HRSG transmitter to the gateway, but we can use regular or extended-range antennas as needed," said Hillencamp. "We didn't really have ay communication problems at TVA's eight plants because the software they're using only needs to be updated about once per minute. This also enables their batteries to last 8-10 years. We also used the AMS Wireless Snap-On application for managing the wireless networks."

Hillencamp reported that one of the most prevalent components employed at TVA's combined-cycle facilities was Emerson's Wireless 248 temperature transmitter. The 248s worked well for steam drain valves because they have a magnetic temperature sensor that can determine valve position and detect drain valve leaks. Many of these transmitters were installed with Type K thermocouple probes. "They were too costly to put on each transmitter, but they went on 20-30 prioritized valves per plant," added Hillencamp. "Some of these valves were losing $1,782 per month, but using these sensors could pay back their cost twice in one month, so TVA is planning to use more of them."

Similarly, HRGC monitoring was needed because flue gas was fouling, corroding and plugging its tube bundles. Rosemount 3051 S CD2 pressure transmitters were used on the HRSGs because they could maintain designed flow paths, preserve HRGC efficiency, and detect plugged impulse lines.

To monitor ambient weather conditions, Hillencamp added that TVA also implemented Rotronic temperature and humidity sensors along with its Wireless 248 transmitters. "This lets operators know when to chill inlet air a bit more, which can help make the HRGCs more efficient," he added.

"By implementing wireless, TVA now has a digital infrastructure that can be expanded with minimal cost, and with just a 1.5% increase in efficiency at one unit, we could save millions of dollars, and achieve project payback in one year." Merrick and Co.’s Susan Hobbie discussed a money-saving wireless infrastructure project at the Tennessee Valley Authority.

Continuous is comprehensive

Beyond implementing tailored wireless designs at TVA's combined-cycle plants, Hobbie and Hillencamp reported they and their colleagues also needed to account for the different DCSs at each facility, so they could achieve continuous monitoring.

"The plants had standardized on Emerson's Ovation, but some also had DeltaV or a DCS from Siemens or ABB," said Hillencamp. "However, the flexible gateways and protocols we chose could be used with Ovation, DeltaV, Modbus and AMS at all eight plants."

Hobbie reported this flexibility was important becaubse it helped TVA achieve its goal of adopting continuous monitoring instead of periodic monitoring. "Periodic field testing only provides a snapshot of a specific moment in time, which means users have to make assumptions," explained Hobbie. "By monitoring real-time continuous data, we can improve reliability, recognize abnormalities and decrease downtime."

Hillencamp added, "This is the first big wireless project for TVA, so its methods and benefits are likely going to spread to other areas, such as its fossil plants."

Hobbie concluded, "TVA can now create physical performance models as ambient conditions change, which will affect how much steam and power can be produced. By implementing these wireless technologies, TVA now has a digital infrastructure that can be expanded with minimal cost. And, with just a 1.5% increase in efficiency at one unit, we could save millions of dollars, and achieve project payback in one year."

How backup about Historian station correct method?

Nguyen Khac Bao — Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:37:55 GMT

How backup about Historian station correct method?

My Plant use Ovation 3.3.1

Graphics Application

Vivek Srivastava — Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:19:52 GMT

Dear Sir/Mam,

We are using Ovation3.5 in server the graphics application is stopped and not running at present. When I am clicking in application there is no response but in the window task manager processes tab the graphics.exe showing running but the graphics not running. We are using Windows server 2008. Please help me regarding the problem.

Thanks & Regards,

Vivek Srivastava

Exporting control sheets to PDF

Matthew Hopkins — Sat, 13 Oct 2018 21:03:04 GMT

Hello - can anyone provide some advice on how to export all the current control sheets to a single PDF file? I'm using Ovation 3.5.1. Thanks in advance.

Problem with Ovation Database connection

Tiwoai — Wed, 28 Feb 2018 01:37:06 GMT

Hi admin, we have installed Ovation 3.5.0 in our power plant.

Here is the issue we faced now.

Our system is still operating normally but we can not access Developer Studio.

It alert that " Connecting to database failed" Code: 0x80004005

Please help us troubleshoot this issue!

Thank You very much!

Spare and replacement parts for your Ovation control system

Greg Schirm — Tue, 28 Nov 2017 13:17:51 GMT

I wanted to make a quick post about spare and replacement Ovation parts, because it might not be clear to all users where to find or buy quality, replacement components for your Ovation™ control system.

Our North American headquarters based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania offers a wide inventory of factory-certified Ovation parts. Emerson follows a rigorous set of quality procedures for the design, manufacture, and testing of all Ovation parts to ensure they operate as intended.

If you would like more information, or require a parts quote, please review our abbreviated Ovation spare parts list for all of the necessary details.

How to communicate Emerson DCS Ovation 3.6.0 with Schneider HMI Series HMIGTO5310 over modbus protocol..??..

projectengineering@coronet.in — Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:25:56 GMT

I have Schneider HMIGTO5310 series..I want to communicate it with Emerson DCS Ovation 3.6.0..Customer has gave me addresses of DCS in d0030 for discrete i/o tags and 0060 for analog inputs.

First question:

are (d0030,i0060) tags modbus type address???

Second question:

If yes,then how i can communicate it with HMI GTO5310??

Third question:

If these tags are not modbus addresses,then on which protocol they will communicate...??

I found driver with name ROC Plus SIO and ROC Plus TCPIP in my HMI driver list..Which both have further equipment like DL8000,FB103,ROC300 and lot more..But i am not able to understand,if these are correct driver then how i can use it.??

Please suggest..Its urgent..I am facing this issue since 1 week and could not find any solution till yet.

Regards

Sidra